Spotted Kingdoms (Zanesville, Ohio)-Deposit

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I placed a $300.00 deposit for second pick of a Dalmatian puppy that was due to be born sometime after 5/28/2013.I spoke with Kristen Long (owner of the pregnant dog)several times reagarding the purchase of the puppy.

She assured me that if I sent the money I would have second pick. She requested the payment not be made in the form of a check, I asked if a money order would be good and she advised that it would be. In good faith I sent a money order in the amount of $300.00 for a pure bred Dalmatian puppy. I called her several times to assure that she received the money order and finally received confirmation on June 2 that she received the money order and that she expected the puppies to be born that night or early morning.

On Monday morning (June 3) I received confirmation that the puppies were indeed born, unfortunately the Dalmation dog was impregnated by the neighbors Laborador. All this was allegedly not known to Kristen. She was very upset that she could not deliver a Dalmatian puppy to me. She also assured me that she would return the deposit to me.

To this date June 18)I have not received a return of my deposit. I gave her a week to return the deposit and then began calling her daily, texting her and sending emails, all without the common decency to return my calls, texts or emails. All I want is MY DEPOSIT back.

I know people have bought puppies from her without difficulties, I am at a loss to understand why she will not call me back and let me know the status of my deposit.For those of you looking for a Dalmatian puppy, please don't go with Kristen of Spotted Kingdoms Dalmatians, she is untrustworthy.

Review about: Dalmatian Puppy.

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Anonymous
#858770

She is still at it but located now in Mason City, IA under the name Serenity Dalmatians

Anonymous
Fremont, Ohio, United States #770334

I also lost a $150 deposit to her in 2012.I did have a hold on a Dalmatian puppy but they became so sick and she sentnme pictures of them head to toe scabs and with pneumonia.

Some died as a result of her tube feeding and it getting into their lungs. I just made the decision to go elsewhere after I was lied to about an inital picture say the face was scratched when in reality his while little body had broken out and he was underweight due to the mother not producing enough milk. So you are not alone. You are correct not trustworthy or a reputable breeder by any means.

Beauty has been bred many times already, poor dog.

Anonymous
Fredericktown, Ohio, United States #693790

I understand your frustration. I went through the same thing. Each time some excuse why she could not refund my money.

Anonymous
to Angel Marina Del Rey, California, United States #693853

Angel,

Thank you for your response. I have contacted an attorney and will post my results.

Thank you

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Spotted Kingdoms - Sold me a Deaf Dalmatian full price

Winter Park, Florida 19 comments
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I purchased a dalmatian puppy from Spotted Kingdoms in Ohio.I picked up the puppy when she was 7 weeks old.

She was full of parasites and it took me several weeks and a lot of money to get that cleared up. I then took her to Columbus for a hearing test and found out she was deaf. Kristen Call (the breeder) e-mailed me and told me she would refund half my money, but give her a few weeks.

My puppy is now 5 months old and I haven't seen a dime.Do not buy a dog from this breeder.

Review about: Dalmatian Puppy.

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Anonymous
#858772

She is still at it! Mason City Iowa under the name Serenity Dalmatians

Anonymous
Zanesville, Ohio, United States #612619

My lengthy response to paula did not post for some reason.I'll have to retype it another time.

Please ignore the smiley faces in my last post.They r not supposed to be there

Anonymous
Zanesville, Ohio, United States #612595

Also, Paula, it would seem you don't know MY puppies as we ad I DO.I have a very, very clear memory of Reba's underdeveloped puppy.

How can you really sit there and say I would mix something like that up? Or that YOU would know better?!?! Really Paula...I don't think of the one who doesn't understand the shoe on the other person'sffoot. I tried so hard to save that puppy.

You :x have NO idea!!!!! I am not God to control life and death. One of the first cruel lessons every person who deals regularly in the arrival of new life learns is that death is a part of life. There are akc show breeders who have criticized me for "interferring" in my litters.

Many professional breeders believe survival of the fittest. I believe that every life is precious. The only other puppy who died in Reba' s litter was Finnegan (fin-dark green collar). He died several months after we went to live with his owner, matt.

I had warned matt expressly that Finns shots should b completed before they go in public...but ::p caught parvo in a park or on a walk. I found out only after Finn was gone :'( :'( matt was crushed. I had went to college with him and I knew how he saved for Finn. So Il gave him Finn half sister for free.

Finns death was not my fault.

But I know what its like to lose a pet...especially one so awaited and still so young.I gave him a free puppy because I am a NICE person and I CARE!!!!!

I would hope that my future puppy buyers are smart enough to see through Paula's lies.

Anonymous
to breeder Zanesville, Ohio, United States #612621

Wow.....sorry for all the typos!!!! I was typing on my phone

crsmith39
to kristen Charlottesville, Virginia, United States #613735

This goes with my most recent post below, it disappeared because of the link I posted, I think.

You can believe whatever you want about my identity, but I can't have you saying that the Kristen is making up an imaginary person in order to back herself up. That's just ludacris. If you google the EXACT username "crsmith39" you can see some of the social networking sites that I, Chrissy Smith, am involved with. Go ahead and click on my pinterest account, where you can be directly linked to my facebook account by clicking the icon and from there you can direct your concerns regarding my identity to me via message. It's absolutely ridiculous how much you keep grasping at the idea of my fabrication, when it's obvious that we are not the same person.

Anyways, regarding the true matter at heart and not silly theories, you are completely entitled to your emotions and opinion as to the experience you received as a puppy buyer, and you may have had a bad experience..it can't always be perfect when dealing in animals and life. BUT I do want to say, that I am VERY very ridiculously happy with the puppy I received and the breeder-buyer relationship I had with Kristen!! I want to be sure that anyone who does see this review, while taking into account the negative, will also take into account the positive. How tragic would it have been if I had stumbled across this review before I purchased Otto and if it would have kept me from getting my puppy from her!! I would have never had his cute little spotted face, goofy personality, the silly noises that make him so extra special...I wouldn't have MY Otto. I just want to be sure that a negative review and one jaded person doesn't keep someone from getting their perfect puppy, when I have been blessed to receive such a wonderful little guy from Kristen!!! He's amazing and healthy in every way, and there is no possible way I could have ever chosen a better puppy if all the furballs int he world were lined up for my choosing. I will always sing praises of Spotted Kingdoms and Kristen!!!!!! p.s. I did want to let you know that I had actually misread your words of "partial refund" on ReviewsTalk as partial deafness, so that was a misinterpretation on my part. You can also see many pictures of my little guy there, so it's kind of strange that you obviously have been keeping an eye on ReviewsTalk and even though there are pictures of my puppy, you still insist on the crazy idea of me not being a real person. Since you're so insistent that I'm actually Kristen, it's pretty entertaining that all of the sudden a "Nastasia" has popped up when you're so obsessed with the topic of fake identities...and the wording of the post sounds just like you, Paula. I'm absolutely positive that you randomly picked a name from Spotted Kingdoms's Website, purposefully misspelled the name, and then posted it on the ONE review site that you haven't responded to my initial satisfied review with your claims of my being an invention of the breeder. Funny. AND you're just kind of proving the point that you won't help Kristen help you..by saying you won't send the bills.....pretty silly.

Anonymous
Zanesville, Ohio, United States #611643

No, I do not have a litter on the way, thank you. Otto and Sparky are from different mothers. They share the same father.

crsmith39 is indeed the owner of one of my pup, Otto. Anyone who is on my facebook can see pictures of her with her puppy. True, I could alter my website however I wanted. Buy why would I do that? I have told many of my puppy owners about you, Paula. I have nothing to hide.

You are the only unsatisfied puppy owner I have ever had. I have tried to make you happy, but, despite your claims on this site, nothing I can do will appease you. You have been nothing but rude to me, despite my many efforts.

The puppy Paula is refering to dieing was seriously underdeveloped. His mother had a large litter (12). My vet (Brandywhine Hospital for Pets) can tell you that I did every last thing I could to help him. Paula once had a litter once so she acts as if she knows everything about puppies, dogs and breeding. I certainly don't claim to know all there is about breeding. I think all breeders can agree that you can always learn something new. However, for those who know about dog pregnancy.....This underdeveloped puppy shared a horn with a bigger puppy. For some reason, the bigger puppy was absoarbing the underdeveloped pup's nutition. My vet will tell you that 20% of your average litter will die. Good breeders will do their best for their mom and pups, but some things are just out of our control. I managed to keep the little underdeveloped boy alive until he was 6 days old...exceeding the vet expectation of him dieing in the first 48 hrs.

As far as Paula's claims to her puppy almost dying. Pardon me, but that's a fat load of bull ***. I spoke to her vet. We had a very different kind of conversation. Yes, her puppy had parasites(which I gave her my vet's meds for). I also, in writing, said that if additional meds were needed, I would pay for them.

AGAIN. I have said many, many, many, many time that Paula should send me copies of her vet bills and I will pay for them.

About the two dogs I found homes for. A breeder contacted me a year or so back with two Dalmatians she could not care for. I agreed to buy them. Angel and Reba had many behavioral issues that were the DIRECT result of too little socialization and human/canine interaction. I worked with them for a long time and corrected almost all of their issues. However, I came to realize that they needed a setting where they didn't feel they had to compete for attention with my other dogs. Reba was overly dominate and Angel was a bit timid (though very sweet) around a lot of commotion. I found they both suitable homes and, as I sure ther new owners would be happy to tell you, cried like a baby, especially when Reba (Paula's Sparky's mom) left. It wasn't lack of love...just the opposite. The enviorment at my house was not suitable to their needs. They had already proven to adjust quickly to new homes. It was and still is what I feel was best for them.

Also, about her clainm that my puppy room was dirty. Another lie. She was been in my puppy room and complimented me thouroughly on the design...even stating that it was much better than her doberman's breeder. I met with her outside the day of pickup because (aside from the fact that is was a beautiful day) a water pipe had broken in our laundry room and IT was a bit of a mess. I had been in the process of fixing it when Paula showed up without okaying her pickup time. You have to go through my laundryroom to get to my puppy room (Paula knows this). As she had been in my pup room before, I wanted to avoid taking her through the water of the floor.

Hopefully I covered all your lies Paula. However, I have already deveoted way too much time and stress to you. Anyone who does not believe that crsmith (keeping out names as I do not have permission) is a real person with a real puppy...maybe you can ask her nicely for a picture. Paula, she is just giving her opinion. Like you, she is entitled. Please refrain from using your bitchy attitude on my puppy owners.

Paula Hughes
to Kristen (Breeder) #611770

I'm sure you've told your puppy owners what you want them to hear.I am not the only "unsatisfied" customer.Natasha has posted a complaint on reviewtalks.

I would be appeased if you sent the refund as promised. The puppy you mentioned is not the same puppy I was referring to that died so you must have had several. I believe my puppy did almost die. I did not take her to my vet, but the emergency pet hospital.

Why bother submitting my vet bills, I wouldn't see that either. You gave very different reasons in your e-mails for getting rid of your dogs. You told me your puppy room was dirty. Nothing was ever said about a washer.

You said you hadn't had time to clean it. Just quoting what you said. I have not lied about anything. I have no reason to.

I know I'll never see my money. As far as "bitchy attitude", I'm sure you would be the same way if the shoe were on the other foot.

I believe crsmith is you.I have warned buyers about you and that is all I set out to do.

crsmith39
Charlottesville, Virginia, United States #612535

Aaaand in clicking on the link for my facebook...it's funny that my cover photo is a picture of Otto......except that he and myself are fake. Soooo....

crsmith39
to Paula Hughes Charlottesville, Virginia, United States #613737

This goes with my most recent post below, it disappeared because of the link I posted, I think.

You can believe whatever you want about my identity, but I can't have you saying that the Kristen is making up an imaginary person in order to back herself up. That's just ludacris. If you google the EXACT username "crsmith39" you can see some of the social networking sites that I, Chrissy Smith, am involved with. Go ahead and click on my pinterest account, where you can be directly linked to my facebook account by clicking the icon and from there you can direct your concerns regarding my identity to me via message. It's absolutely ridiculous how much you keep grasping at the idea of my fabrication, when it's obvious that we are not the same person.

Anyways, regarding the true matter at heart and not silly theories, you are completely entitled to your emotions and opinion as to the experience you received as a puppy buyer, and you may have had a bad experience..it can't always be perfect when dealing in animals and life. BUT I do want to say, that I am VERY very ridiculously happy with the puppy I received and the breeder-buyer relationship I had with Kristen!! I want to be sure that anyone who does see this review, while taking into account the negative, will also take into account the positive. How tragic would it have been if I had stumbled across this review before I purchased Otto and if it would have kept me from getting my puppy from her!! I would have never had his cute little spotted face, goofy personality, the silly noises that make him so extra special...I wouldn't have MY Otto. I just want to be sure that a negative review and one jaded person doesn't keep someone from getting their perfect puppy, when I have been blessed to receive such a wonderful little guy from Kristen!!! He's amazing and healthy in every way, and there is no possible way I could have ever chosen a better puppy if all the furballs int he world were lined up for my choosing. I will always sing praises of Spotted Kingdoms and Kristen!!!!!! p.s. I did want to let you know that I had actually misread your words of "partial refund" on ReviewsTalk as partial deafness, so that was a misinterpretation on my part. You can also see many pictures of my little guy there, so it's kind of strange that you obviously have been keeping an eye on ReviewsTalk and even though there are pictures of my puppy, you still insist on the crazy idea of me not being a real person. Since you're so insistent that I'm actually Kristen, it's pretty entertaining that all of the sudden a "Nastasia" has popped up when you're so obsessed with the topic of fake identities...and the wording of the post sounds just like you, Paula. I'm absolutely positive that you randomly picked a name from Spotted Kingdoms's Website, purposefully misspelled the name, and then posted it on the ONE review site that you haven't responded to my initial satisfied review with your claims of my being an invention of the breeder. Funny. AND you're just kind of proving the point that you won't help Kristen help you..by saying you won't send the bills.....pretty silly.

Paula Hughes
#608146

Reply to crsmith.I'm sure the breeder can do what ever she wants with her web site.

It doesn't change the facts. I have a witness that my dogs collar was yellow and was not the runt. My dog did not come from a Sept litter nor from Daisy. I never in any blog I wrote stated my dog was partially deaf.

She is totally deaf and always has been. The point here is I was sold a deaf dog and promised a refund which I did not receive.

I believe crsmith is the breeder trying to cover her tracks.Must have another litter on the way.

crsmith39
Charlottesville, Virginia, United States #606770

So, I highly disagree with this assessment of Spotted Kingdoms and Kristen's breeding practices, and, as a VERY satisfied customer, I believe I have a right to do so. When you insinuate that Kristen's breeding is sub-par, you insinuate that there is something wrong with her puppies, and therefore MY puppy, and that is not gonna fly.

I'm assuming you received a puppy from the 09/27/12 Daisy and Bullet litter, which is the same litter I purchased Otto ("White"), my gorgeous 4 1/2 m/o (NOT 5 month..to be clear) liver-spotted Dal boy, from. I could NOT be happier with the wonderful little guy Kristen has provided me with, he has such an amazing personality and I receive compliments on how beautiful, sweet, and well-behaved he is everywhere we go. He has the perfect temperament, and, while I may be a little biased, the perfect look. He is an absolute gem of a dog, he's just such a goofy, cuddly ball of love--and I know I can thank Kristen's early on care and attention.

I am a VERY picky dog owner and I waded through hundreds of puppies before I found the breeder that suited my exact needs with knowledge, past puppy proof, speed and thoroughness of response, and parents with the look I was searching for. I'm not gonna lie, I'm downright annoying when it comes to my dogs and I will flood a breeder with questions to be sure I'm getting the best possible puppy. Throughout the whole process of purchasing, Kristen was always happy to speedily answer my questions and guide me into picking my perfect puppy. She was so helpful, constantly providing me with updates on the puppies' looks, temperaments, appointments, results, etc. When it came down to deciding on which puppy I would choose, she guided me to my little guy based on the personality and look I wanted. There is no way I could possibly be happier! He is absolutely perfect!!!

When it was getting close to the time to pick him up, I was told he had worms, which is completely normal for puppies, and had been started on his meds. I felt like I had been waiting so long for him to hurry up and get old enough to pick up, that I also decided to pick him up at 7 weeks. Kristen DID suggest that she hold onto the puppies until they had finished their dewormer, but I was far too eager to pick him up and have dealt with worms before, so she agreed to let me pick him up the Saturday after Thanksgiving.

Of course, anyone who has ever picked up a new puppy has always had concerns, no matter how happy they are with the puppy or breeder. As I live in VA, I was unable to see my puppy in person until I drove to OH for pick up, and was definitely surprised at how small the puppies were--only a little over 4lbs--but that's normal for a large litter of puppies out of a smaller mother. Although I knew that, I was worried that he would always be behind in growth, but since that day he has gotten rid of his worms, and despite a mild, normal yeast infection in his ears, he has been 100% healthy and was 33lbs at his 4mo. check up. The vet has predicted he will be in between 60 and 70lbs at maturation which is a perfectly normal Dalmatian. Exactly the size I was hoping for! I was also less than enthusiastic with the use of Purina, due to the lack of nutritional availability that it and all it's large, mainstream competitors/counterparts offer, but it's completely normal for breeders to use those brands as they are recommended by the breed clubs (including the AKC) and Vets. The clubs as well as vet schools are all sponsored/funded by these less than adequate pet food brands, and thus are recommended.

As far as the partial deafness, I could care less if that was the case with Otto. He is such a wonderful boy that I feel it would not hinder his worth at all, especially since it's so common in Dalmatians. In fact, most breeders state that they don't offer any sort of discount for partial deafness as the dog can hear just as well as a dog with normal hearing. The hearing in the good ear accounts for the deaf ear, and it is almost impossible to detect without a BAER test. The jury is still out on whether those dogs should be used for breeding, to improve the hearing of the breed overall, but they are the exact same worthiness as pets as normal hearing dogs. So, the fact that Kristen would offer you a discount at all only speaks for her excellence and care as a breeder. Tests aren't fool-proof, and while she may have known about the partial deafness, you have to keep in mind that she also might not have.

Regarding "Yellow," the puppy that passed away, I have been following the puppies since they were 2 weeks old, and she was always the runt. Kristen would not sell her as she was worried about her size, and did not want to sell a puppy that might not survive. It's completely normal to lose puppies--that's the tragic risk you run as a breeder, and in most cases, has nothing to do with the breeder at all.

**Just a note, I stumbled across this negative feedback and responded based on my own desire. I was in no way, shape, or form, asked by Kristen to do so, but would have been more than happy to if I would have been asked.crsmith39

crsmith39
to crsmith39 Charlottesville, Virginia, United States #606771

No idea why my paragraphs aren't separated.

Paula Hughes
to crsmith39 Lima, Ohio, United States #607542

You don"t know squat about my situation.First of all my puppy is completely deaf, not partially deaf.

As far as the breeder offering me a discount, I never got it!!! Thus the pissed customer. We are not talking about the same litter here. I had the "yellow" puppy in this litter and it was not the runt.

I think the blog by crsmith is a bunch of BS brought on by the breeder.

Buyer Beware this is a back yard breeder trying to redeem herself.Look at the length of this thing!

crsmith39
to Paula Hughes Charlottesville, Virginia, United States #607846

Actually, no. In your other negative reviews on other sites you use the words "partially deaf,"so if your dog is fully deaf then you should not use the word partial.

My "rambling" (as you called it in one of the comments on the other site)was supporting evidence to the statements I was making. I don't make claims without actually knowing what I'm talking about...I know a lot about dogs, puppies, and have done a great deal of research on dals.

Oh wait, just kidding I'm actually the breeder using a false name and pretending I purchased a puppy from Spotted Kingdoms...although my name AND puppy are on the website. You're just stabbing in the dark.

You're entitled to your opinion and emotions regarding your experience, and I'm entitled to mine and with that being said I am VERY happy with Kristen and the wonderful little guy, Otto ("White"--his color from the litter), that she has given me. My investment in this conversation, as I stated before, is that when you discredit Kristen, you are also speaking poorly on my puppy, and thems is fighting words.

Actually, if you look back at the updates on the site it states that "Yellow" wad always the runt, and as i had been following the pups since they were 2 weeks I knew them all and their colors well. After I picked Otto up, i updated Kristen on him and asked about the other pups, where I was told that "Yellow" had passed away..which is why i her info was removed from the site a long time ago.

Anonymous
Germantown, Maryland, United States #580269

Send me copies of the vet bills Paula and I will pay for them!!!

Anonymous
#578679

Some truth here, the puppy did not have worms it had coccidia.I had to take her to emergency she was so bad.

If the breeder would like to pay that bill it was $268.00. I can't get the breeder to pay a dime after finding out the dog is deaf let a lone a vet bill.

Want to make me happy?Send me a check.

Anonymous
#578008

I have two e-mails to you where I said I would pay for the vet costs and the medicine associated with her worms.Send me copies of the bills and I will still do so.

I also have replies from you saying you didn't want the money. I am more than happy to abide by the terms of our contract, which was created by the Dalmatian Club of America.

Never ONCE have you told me that a refund of half your money (which we never discussed) would satisfy you. As I have said from the very start, I would like to find a way to make you happy so that we can have the great breeder/puppy owner relationship that I have with all my other puppy owners. I am STILL open to working with you even after the way you have treated my past attempts to do so.

Why?

Because I am a good breeder and I care about my puppies and their owners.I want you to be satisfied and happy with your Spotted Kingdoms Puppy.

Anonymous
#577728

Never was I told of paying for vet costs.Just the medicine.

I would be very satisfied if the breeder would refund half my money as she promised in her e-mail.As far as slander, I have proof that everything I said is true and I have a right as a consumer to complain.

Anonymous
#577710

I am the breeder in question here. I have NEVER had a dissatisfied puppy owner before. In fact, I can provide many references of happy, satisfied puppy owners.

I have attempted to work with Paula Hughes for months now.

She neglected to mention several things. One, I advised against picking the puppy up at 7 weeks as she had not finished her meds for the worms. Paula knowingly picked her puppy up before the puppy was rid of her worms (something I severely regret now). She very, very rudely pushed me to let this puppy go early on my anniversary on a holiday and even showed up at my door without receiving an ok to do so. Two, I offered, many times, to pay for the vet costs associated with the worms. Three, Paula is protected by our legally binding contract, but she refuses to work with me on the terms stated within our contract. I have been in contact with her the whole time, paid for the puppy's hearing test and have done my very best to make Paula Hughes happy. I have offered (among other things), from the start, to come get the puppy and give her a refund or a different puppy. I have went out of my way and offered to do things I am not even legally obligated to do, but nothing will make this woman happy. I have already consulted my lawyer regarding this and will do so again in regards to slander and/or defamation on Paula's part.

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